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Subject My questions
I came across a few unusual characters and I am unsure as to what they are.The following are my questions:
Sometimes there are no spaces in between two words that should have a space in between them. Should I keep them together or separate them?
With the symbol that Professor told us meant "de" (basically it looks like a very loopy "d," is there an entity for it. or should I just put "de"?
Are there "i"s without an accent (or tilde), if so, I am having a difficult time telling the difference between the ones with and without an accent.
There are characters that look like big comas or small slashes...what do do they represent?
Author: Hamlin, Scott
Subject Re: My questions
I will have to defer to Domingo for answers to some of these questions, but will try my best to answer some of them for you.
Q>> Sometimes there are no spaces in between two words ... Should I keep them together or separate them?
A. This is an excellent question, and I wish I had an excellent answer to match. I think the answer will be that you should separate the words. I am guessing that the printer pressed words against each other to save space on the page. But it could be that the two words together like that somehow change the meaning of them. If that is the case, Domingo may want you to retain the original style of the book. I will have to check with him on this one.
Q>> With the symbol that Professor told us meant "de" (basically it looks like a very loopy "d," is there an entity for it. or should I just put "de"?
A. In the world of XML and Unicode, there is an entity for that character -- I believe it is δ However, I think Domingo doesn't want you to use it. Instead simply write the letter "d" for that letter, because this is a case of the publisher decorating the text. Again, I will have to check with him on this one.
Q>> Are there "i"s without an accent (or tilde), if so, I am having a difficult time telling the difference between the ones with and without an accent.
A. Yes, there are. I think most of the i's are normal and a few of them are i tildes. It is a little tricky to tell the difference, but normal i's have a small dot and i tildes have a small line over them. If you are really having a hard time, I would recommend marking all of the i's that you are not sure about and going to Domingo for some help.
Q>> There are characters that look like big comas or small slashes...what do do they represent?
A. Check the question from the student above and my answer to see if you two are talking abou the same symbols. I have answered how to handle those there. If you can, give me a page number of where this punctuation occurs, I'll try to come up with a more definite answer for you.
Glad to see some of you have already started. Keep up the good work.
Author: Ledezma, Domingo
Subject Re: My questions
Scott, I appreciate your help responding. You'll become soon specialist in sixteen century Spanish typography.
Q>> Sometimes there are no spaces in between two words that should have a space in between them. Should I keep them together or separate them?
I agree with Scott, you should separate the word if you think there should have space in between them. There are other cases in which words that now we put together, were printed separated, i.e words with the pronoun 'se'. In such cases, and if you see space, you should write the word separated.
Q>> With the symbol that Professor told us meant "de" (basically it looks like a very loopy "d," is there an entity for it. or should I just put "de"?
See my response 'About D' in 'letter not found in list'. As I said I made a mistake and we should use an entity for this case.
Q>> Are there "i"s without an accent (or tilde), if so, I am having a difficult time telling the difference between the ones with and without an accent.
I agree with Scott. Use 'i' normal for cases without accent, and the entity 'i tilde' for clear cases of use of tilde. If you can not see the difference between them, see the electronic file and magnify the examples you have doubts about. If you can not see the difference we can discuss about these cases in the classroom.
Q>> There are characters that look like big comas or small slashes...what do do they represent?
See my response 'About small and large slashes' in 'letter not found in list'
DL
Subject: interesting v
On page 10b in the second column, 14 lines up from the bottom, there seems to be a 'v' with an apostrophe on top, like a spiritus lenis v. What do you make of this?
Author: Hamlin, Scott
Subject Re: interesting v
Is it in the word "vi?to"? If so, that looks like a regular "v" to me. What do others think?
If it is in another word, let me know which one. Thanks!
Author: student
Subject Re: interesting v
There is a good example on page 11b still in the second column 14 lines from the bottom of the page. The word looks like "v"des. It doesn't look like a regular v to me, so I'm not sure what to do
Author: Hamlin, Scott
Subject Re: interesting v
Found it! (Actually it is on 12a) I do believe we have another character. Use &vspir; every time you see it.
Good catch.